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    Finn MacCool

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    The concept in magick that desire itself inhibits the success of magick is something that seems too difficult to overcome. How can one want something and then not want it in an attempt to get the desired results, without desire? Very paradoxical.
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    Phil Townley
    Remember one of the very first lesson on polarization. If you can depolarize yourself then you won't feel so strongly about your desires so it will be easier to forget about them
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    Finn MacCool
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    But if one can forget their desire, there is no need to do the work in the first place.

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    Finn MacCool
     you can be working on something else hence not thinking about the desire

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    • Mike Bacon
    Finn MacCool
     congratulations, you've stumbled onto Buddhism.

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    Mike Bacon
     Haha yes which is ironic because buddhism is about giving up everything
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    Finn MacCool
     detachment is a powerful tool.

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    • Phil Townley
    Finn MacCool
     you have have things without being attached to them. Again it's polarised thinking to say Buddhism is about giving everything up. Did the Buddha not recommend the middle way....

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starting about 14:20 time stamp in this video "Mr Ali Nakjavani Green Acre"  Finn MacCool the "paradox" trick is the fact that we cannot possibly always know "what we want" and need all the time, otherwise we're just ridiculous spoiled brat overgrown children responding to instant gratification and entitlement, have no humility, and are full of hubris, pride, and arrogance .https://youtu.be/H9lXeobn6OU?t=909

 

 


 

 This verse from a Bahai prayer really seemed to hit overcoming this "paradox" on the nail for me. I'm better off refraining from measuring success by "what I want" and success is actually refraining from the hubris that what you have is always what you deserve or don't deserve, considering what does the best good for the love of a loving God. https://www.bahaiprayers.io/prayer?id=225020 " I know not that which profiteth me or harmeth me; Thou art, verily, the All-Knowing, the All-Wise. Do Thou decree for me, O Lord, my God, and my Master, that which will make me feel content with Thine eternal decree and will prosper me in every world of Thine. Thou art in truth the Gracious, the Bountiful."

  - Bahá’u’lláh

 

 

 

 

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